Speaking of Cults
A podcast about cults, coercive control and recovery. Formerly called the Sensibly Speaking podcast, in this weekly show host Chris Shelton interviews cult survivors, psychologists and other professionals and specialists about the topics of cult recruitment, retention and recovery.
Episodes
Episodes
Sunday Apr 12, 2020
Is Scientologist Grant Cardone Melting Down?
Sunday Apr 12, 2020
Sunday Apr 12, 2020
This week I’ve got a bit of a surprise – we are doing the podcast live and with Jeffrey Augustine of Scientology Money Project fame onboard to talk about the recent troubles Scientologist and self-proclaimed real estate guru Grant Cardone has been having. Stuck at the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, laying off employees and a host of other issues seem to be hitting Grant hard. Jeff and I will be talking about this in detail, with plenty of callbacks to Scientology and how Grant uses it to run his business and his life, and how that may well have had a lot to do with his current predicament.
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Saturday Apr 04, 2020
The Occult, Scientology and Madame Blavatsky
Saturday Apr 04, 2020
Saturday Apr 04, 2020
This week I am joined by Joe Szimhart, who not only has an extensive knowledge of the occult and its history, but also has worked as a cult interventionist and has written & lectured extensively on the history and nature of destructive cults. He and I discuss the occult roots of Scientology, and in fact of almost every different religious cult of the 20th century, and how those roots all seem to meet at Madame Blavatsky. Enjoy!
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Saturday Mar 28, 2020
The Three Apostates Talk Current Events
Saturday Mar 28, 2020
Saturday Mar 28, 2020
This week the three apostates have met again, this time to discuss the responses and reactions of our former groups to what is happening in the world today. Enjoy!
Jonathan Streeter’s channel
Lloyd Evans channel
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Saturday Mar 14, 2020
Jon Atack vs. Scientology (Part 3)
Saturday Mar 14, 2020
Saturday Mar 14, 2020
I am joined again this week by former Scientologist, artist and historian Jon Atack to finish our discussion of his full story in and out of Scientology. Like my own, it’s a long and detailed tale and one that has required multiple podcasts to tell all the way through. In this episode, we cover Jon’s experience taking on Scientology in the legal arena. Along the way we take quite a few side roads as we weave the narrative of what it’s like dealing with a ruthless organization that has no qualms about spending millions to ruin people utterly. This is not a podcast for the faint of heart.
Jon’s YouTube channel
Steve Cannae podcast
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Saturday Mar 07, 2020
NKT vs. Scientology ft. Dr. Michelle Haslam
Saturday Mar 07, 2020
Saturday Mar 07, 2020
This week I am very happy to be joined by Dr. Michelle Haslam, a licensed psychologist in the UK and a cult survivor. She has a fascinating story to tell, which of course we compare with Scientology along the way since the parallels between her former group, the New Kamapa Tradition, and Scientology are legion. As a psychologist, Michelle is also in a good position to now comment on the psychological manipulations and control techniques which she experienced first-hand. I think you’ll find this podcast very informative. Enjoy!
Jon’s first interview with Dr. Haslam
Recovery from The New Kadampa Tradition
Michelle’s YouTube channel
Be Scofields article
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Wednesday Mar 04, 2020
BONUS: An Impossible Conversation about Politics and Healthcare
Wednesday Mar 04, 2020
Wednesday Mar 04, 2020
BONUS: Today I’m posting a bonus episode of my podcast for this week. Brandon Estrella, a conservative podcaster friend and I (I’m liberal) have done this style of conversation before, finding common ground on issues despite have differing or even contentious views on many things. This podcast isn’t for everyone, as some people hate to hear me talk about politics. Well, if that’s you then don’t listen. Otherwise, I hope you do and enjoy! I look forward to your feedback.
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Saturday Feb 29, 2020
Jon Atack vs. Scientology (Part 2)
Saturday Feb 29, 2020
Saturday Feb 29, 2020
I am joined again this week by former Scientologist, artist and historian Jon Atack to continue our discussion of his full story in and out of Scientology. Like my own, it’s a long and detailed tale and one that will require multiple podcasts to tell all the way through. In this episode, we cover a bit more of the time period right after Jon left Scientology and got involved with the “independent Scientology” movement with Captain Bill Roberts, a very unique individual, to say the least. Enjoy!
Jon’s YouTube channel is here.
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Saturday Feb 22, 2020
Cultic Behavior in Social Activism ft. Dr James Lindsay
Saturday Feb 22, 2020
Saturday Feb 22, 2020
This week I am honored to host Dr. James Lindsay, who holds degrees in mathematics and physics and the author of five books with a sixth on its way. He has spent years studying acdemia and specifically the rise of various movements within social activist groups over the past couple decades. In this talk we discuss not only some of the ways these activist groups have taken on cultic characteristics, but why the underlying theories driving some of these movements are based on bad or pseudoscience. This of course does not mean that the drive for equality of opportunity or human rights for every single person should not be pushed hard and with ferocity. It simply means that there are deeper elements to some of these movements which need to be understood. Enjoy!
James Lindsay’s article on social justice as a religion
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Your Host
Hello, my name is Chris Shelton and I am an author, consultant, podcaster, videographer, and former cult member. Welcome to my podcast!
Who is Chris Shelton?
Chris started a YouTube channel which has over 45,000 subscribers, produces the Sensibly Speaking podcast each week and has produced hundreds of videos laying out the scam of Scientology, educating on critical thinking and interviewing former members of Scientology and other destructive cults, as well as a range of therapists, cult exit counselors, educators and media personalities. Chris has also given talks and presentations around the United States about his experiences and has been featured on numerous podcasts and television shows. He was featured on Leah Remini’s Scientology and the Aftermath on A&E and served as a consultant to the show for its first two seasons. He has also written a critical analysis of Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard called Scientology: A to Xenu – An Insider’s Guide to What Scientology is Really All About, available on Amazon in printed form, e-book format and as an audio book.